Heavy metal and church don't usually go in the same sentence, but here we are. Gary talks to Brian "Head" Welch, guitarist for Korn, about the documentary Loud Crazy Love and the wild true story behind it - crystal meth, suicidal thoughts, a rock star lifestyle he thought could stay secret, and a moment in his office where he reckons God's love physically wrapped around him. It's raw stuff: rejection from both his old rock world and the Christian community, the struggle raising his daughter as a single dad, and getting baptised in Israel with CNN cameras rolling.

Brian's disarmingly honest about how messy grace can be - years of anger issues after "getting saved", punching walls, a rocky patch with his teenage daughter, and his own parents' unlikely late-in-life conversion (his dad's now a door greeter, of all things). Gary gets him talking about forgiving himself, devouring the Bible like a man possessed, and why he decided to put all this dirty laundry on film for the world to see. Fair warning: if you're after George Jones or Beethoven, this one's not for you.

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